ARRIDICCI (October 12, 2008 at 12:20 am)

the earth is a body and we are the immune system....

itsonelouder1 (October 10, 2008 at 11:09 pm)

Of course you can see your eye in the mirror. What I'm getting at is this. Everything in the universe is, in essence, one entity. That entity has no form and is consciousness. How can thought (form) explain consciousness (formless)? I believe consiousness can only be understood through awakening out of thought into thoughtless Nirvana/Elightenment.

Tzambissamo (October 10, 2008 at 10:37 pm)

You can examine your own eye by looking in a mirror. Also you can study its anatomy and how its neurophysiology interconnects with the distributed brain system. It is my view that being able to understand even a limited amount of such things helps us to understand a facet of conscious experience. I am yet to be convinced that science cannot explain consciousness in the '3rd person' perspective, or rather as a function of the brain.

MaBu888 (October 9, 2008 at 8:35 pm)

Not higher power, but higher stages of development that leave a trace in the shape of increase of consciential depth and smallness in physical dimension. No bible/desert-god in sight, though. Deus est homo. You are quite right. Sense the I-amness. It is right now. Now THAT is god.

MaBu888 (October 9, 2008 at 8:32 pm)

In any case, we are a power, but we need to change and shift our perspective and become more trans-paradigmatic, as in transcending and including what we know to be true in a way that is integral.

MaBu888 (October 9, 2008 at 8:31 pm)

I'd like to say that I agree. I'd say, in addition to this that universal or transuniversal consciousness (if there are multiverses) uttelry transcends and utterly includes all things that arize due to compression, including thoughts. If viewed from non-dual big mind, self is just a what ever we call it that arizes in this big mind. That last one is actually a modification of the zen buddhism's states of dropped-off bodymind. I'll send you a link to an interesting channel.

itsonelouder1 (October 7, 2008 at 5:05 pm)

I don't believe science can undertand conscousness. I think it's like trying to see one's own eye. You can't see the unseeable. Likewise you can't know the unknowable. Science works through thought, observatioin and understanding. Universal consiousness involves no thought, so to try to understand it can only lead you nowhere.

itsonelouder1 (October 7, 2008 at 4:01 pm)

All this is explained very well in Eckhart Tolle's books. The Buddha knew this thousands of years ago, as did other spiritual people. Humanity needs to wake up from the illusion of seperateness, the illusion of self. Wake up to the present moment and stop trying to get to some time in the future where you'll be happy. You'll never arrive because the ego always wants more, it's never satisfied with the present moment. If we don't we'll end up killing ourselves through the greed of material gain.

salsog (October 7, 2008 at 3:25 am)

if mankind is the " highest power" on this planet and the universe we are in deep shit.we are not alone nor would we want to be. always be kind to each other.and never stop beliveing in a better place and time to come.

salsog (October 7, 2008 at 3:11 am)

If mankind is the "highest power" on earth or in this universe you know we are in deep shit.We are not alone nor would we want to be,also be kind to each other.