annedegro (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

So far the you have only responded to words by KS, and haven't said anything about his music. Now you claim it is no good listening to what artists claim...So to get back on track: please inform us what illustrates the 'new loose definition of art' in masterpieces like MOMENTE or LICHT?

richtomes (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

It's no good listening to what artists claim, they claim all kinds of wondrous things. It's the results which illustrate the new loose definition of art which the late 20th century art revolution attempted to impose, with appalling results.

annedegro (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

You accuse KS for not answering questions. But why don;t you yourself anwer my question in which work KS claims 'a new loose definition of art'? Of course we know the answer: KS never claimed such a thing and you'll never admit when you're wrong.And you never answer the critical comments on your own 9/11-video and only repeat the same message all over again. You impose your view on the world, but don't want to discuss: you block people= same kind censorship as some of the B-composers suffered!

juangrojas20 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Thank you!

annedegro (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

So which work KS composed that resulted in a 'new loose definition of art'?

richtomes (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

It's not what artists claimed, it's what they did which illustrates the new loose definition of art which the late 20th century art revolution attempted to impose, with appalling results.

annedegro (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Repeating that people like KS ever suggested that ANYTHING can be art, doesn't contribute to the discussion since KS NEVER claimed that ANYTHING can be art. You are the one that claims that other people claim that anything can be art : not KS nor any serious composer or artist would even suggest it!

richtomes (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Once again personal attacks, accusations, no objectivity, just like Stockhausen in the human evolution video. My subject of choice is the art revolution of the late 20th century which attempted to change the definition of art, and introduced the notion that anything might be considered as art. The original pedigree endures.

annedegro (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Your comments show that you don't know anything about KS' music. You can't deny that! You choose to connect things to KS that aren't connected.So please discuss KS and stop annoying people by showing the whole world that you haven't got a clue (I hope you aren't insulted by this fact) ;-)Lets discuss MUSIC

richtomes (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Once again an idiotic response by annedegro illustrating exactly the tactic employed by Stockhausen in the 'KS on human evolution' video. Instead of addressing the issues raised he chooses instead to dismiss them entirely, concentrating on discrediting the questioner as under-evolved. Smear tactics and insults are a particularly underevolved form of debate. Perhaps that's why KS tries so hard to paint himself as a superevolved being, attempting to distract us from the reality.