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Generalterz (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
yeah :) thats awesome :)
bocaramsmma (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
WTF???Take one of them on,and see what will happen to you.
j123na (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
haha! rener squeaked when his dad guillotined him!
basedeal (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
ok lets squash this no need for either of us to get hostile anymore :)
barrettokarate (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Neither one of us is gonna admit that we're wrong so there's no point in continuing this debate. And for the record nobody looks for a fight involving multiple attackers, shit happens and sometimes the unexpected happens like taking on more than one guy.
barrettokarate (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
And the Gracie's have referred to their art as the ultimate style. Pick up any issue of Black Belt magazine with With Rorion and any of his sons on it. Read it very carefully and you'll see that they either say it's the ultimate art or that it's all you need in a self defense situation. None of the other Gracie's have said that. Not Renzo, Ralph, Cesar, Kyra, Machado Brothers (Gracie cousins), etc.
barrettokarate (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
First of all you little cunt, where did I say that the Gracies suck? Where? The word "suck" never came up, NEVER!!!! I've trained in karate, judo, and JIU-JITSU for 20 fuckin' years since I was a kid. If I thought jiu-jitsu sucked why would I train in it?I simply stated that against multiple attackers it's not effective, even Rickson (the most humble, nicest, and honest guy you'll meet) admitted this back when he wrote a column for Black Belt Magazine.
basedeal (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
but your the one that sounds like a little girl saying "meh gracies suck and y are they getting beat?" They set there name in the history books they got nothing left to prove, secondly they never said it was the the ultimate art for multiple attackers but they did say their style was effective and could back it up because they had tune up matches before the first ufc began if you see the old footage with them challenging everybody and beating them, NOW SHUT THE FUCK UP pussie
barrettokarate (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
You shut the fuck up, you little cyber cunt. "Youngster"? I'm probably older and have way more fuckin MA and fight experience than your shit face does or will ever have. I love MMA but arrogant shits like you are what makes the sport suck. Little fucks like you who don't have any respect or disipline enough to respect others opinions and need to curse. Your as bad as Dana White.
basedeal (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Shut the fuck up!! If you knew MMA striking/wrestling/submissions would you be dumb enough to fight multiple attackers? COMMON SENCE YOU FUCKING MOMO, jiu jitsu is enough if need be, and it depends on the individual. Of course were all human, but come on fucking youngster, you got alot to learn about growing up in the real world. ya my mouth aint sound any mature because dumb fucks like u piss me the fuck off. | 
