Estaban333 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Once you claim to be born again, you have all the advantages so you better have you hands full of works from that point, or it would have been better for you if you had never made such a claim.

SnowKeane (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Hey....Veo q eres de COlombia....Soy yo soy De Ecuador...Tambien me gusta Starsailor, sobretodo el disco "Silence is easy" , excelente disco...ah y "Love is here" tambien, uno de los mejores discos q he oido en toda mi vida....Me da gusto saber q hay latinos q tiene un excelente gusto musical.....See you later....God Bless you...

shanetime06 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

That's deep...for anyone who has been there, that's deep.

MikaYoman (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

and i see that you don't want to have a real debate but to have reason ! All that you want is that we join your believings... You are like all the fanatics believiers, you want all to join yours point of view...

MikaYoman (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

You're wrong, you did no search.Pline the youngt ell about Jésus and the christianism... We have too all the litterature of the "apostolic fathers" that prove Jesus's existence.And you may know that the bibicals laws by Jésus have inspirate the humans laws.The law of Jésus, bieleving in him or not, are one of the best ideology in history, he asked to love each people and ennemy too for example ; to stop judge the orthers and mrealize that we may be judge as rock as we judge them...

ColonPal (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

I have no doubt there was a man named Jesus, I know several of them today and they're not even dead. It's the chronic heresay and lies that religion spreads about this fabled figure that is not provable. Especially given the fact that we didn't even record history at that time. Jesus is a lie and the Bible was written to keep people from operating their own brains.Religion was designed to stop people from thinking.

MikaYoman (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

And me, i found the faith reading the works of Isaac Newton proving the authenticity of more than 90 % of the Bible, and proving that knowing that the 22 consomns hebraic are numbers too, the name of Jésus in Hebre appaear in the prophéties of the Old Testament... The theologicals works of Isaac Newton are as serious as this phisicals works.

MikaYoman (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Be sure that if he had never existed, the jews would have been the first to tell that some of theirs "fathers" never asked the romans to kill him... But Jews don't denied this existence, they just don't believe in him. And you may know that we find severals citations of the existence of Jésus in roman litterature of the first and second century as in citations of the bigger archivist or Rome.But i'm not here to debate with you, i only answered to a question about the sense of "born again".

ColonPal (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

I already see the Kingdom of Heaven. It's on earth right now, and so is all Hell. You simply make the choice. As for 'Jesus own words', you first have to prove that Jesus exists, which there is no direct evidence of. Jesus is as much a real person as SANTA CLAUS or the EASTER BUNNY. Most of us realize that the Bible is myth, it just seems harder for 'Believers' to catch on to reality.

MikaYoman (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Yes God want us to grow up in faith, love...But first in the Bible Jesus ask us to born again, this is this own words : "If you don't born again you won't see the kingdom of heaven" ! It's mean that we may change, may "kill" our old nature walkings in bad passions, in the sins, and get new nature walking in sanctification (so growing up !), listening what the Holy Spirit of God tell us. The Baptem by immersion is the symbol of this passage.